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	<title>Comments for Reports from the Asylum</title>
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	<description>Podcasting &#039;Professors&#039; Lee Hopkins and Sallie Goetsch bring you just-about-weekly updates about developments in business communications and social media from the Podcast Asylum.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Wait! Who Took the Podcasting out of PodCamp? by Sallie Goetsch</title>
		<link>http://www.podcastasylum.com/reports/2011/02/wait-who-took-the-podcasting-out-of-podcamp/comment-page-1/#comment-66121</link>
		<dc:creator>Sallie Goetsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had one once--PodCamp West in 2006. It was a good event, successful from my point of view as an attendee, but the organizer disappeared afterwards and we never even got our T-shirts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had one once&#8211;PodCamp West in 2006. It was a good event, successful from my point of view as an attendee, but the organizer disappeared afterwards and we never even got our T-shirts.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wait! Who Took the Podcasting out of PodCamp? by Paul Merrill</title>
		<link>http://www.podcastasylum.com/reports/2011/02/wait-who-took-the-podcasting-out-of-podcamp/comment-page-1/#comment-66120</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Merrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised that SF has never had one! They&#039;re great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised that SF has never had one! They&#8217;re great.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wait! Who Took the Podcasting out of PodCamp? by Sallie Goetsch</title>
		<link>http://www.podcastasylum.com/reports/2011/02/wait-who-took-the-podcasting-out-of-podcamp/comment-page-1/#comment-66119</link>
		<dc:creator>Sallie Goetsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Paul. I&#039;m glad some PodCamps are still making podcasting the main topic. And I wish I had the time/energy/stamina to organize a PodCamp SF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Paul. I&#8217;m glad some PodCamps are still making podcasting the main topic. And I wish I had the time/energy/stamina to organize a PodCamp SF.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wait! Who Took the Podcasting out of PodCamp? by Paul Merrill</title>
		<link>http://www.podcastasylum.com/reports/2011/02/wait-who-took-the-podcasting-out-of-podcamp/comment-page-1/#comment-66118</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Merrill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the coordinator of PodCamp Denver. We had the first one back in October 2010. There wasn&#039;t much on podcasting, but nearby PodCamp Boulder (v3 was earlier this month) featured a lot on podcasting! So it&#039;s not dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the coordinator of PodCamp Denver. We had the first one back in October 2010. There wasn&#8217;t much on podcasting, but nearby PodCamp Boulder (v3 was earlier this month) featured a lot on podcasting! So it&#8217;s not dead.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wait! Who Took the Podcasting out of PodCamp? by Sallie Goetsch</title>
		<link>http://www.podcastasylum.com/reports/2011/02/wait-who-took-the-podcasting-out-of-podcamp/comment-page-1/#comment-66117</link>
		<dc:creator>Sallie Goetsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have been paying more attention to the PodCamp programs, Doug, but since I couldn&#039;t go, I didn&#039;t actually look at the schedules. My bad for not noticing what was happening sooner. 

As for people continuing to podcast and listen to podcasts--some definitely do, but many of the shows I used to listen to have podfaded, growth has slowed down (my next post, almost finished, is about statistics), and a great many of the services once available to podcasters have disappeared. New ones are not springing up very quickly in their wake.

As I said in my reply to Chris, PodCamp may serve the wider community best as it is, but audio podcasting as a medium is &lt;em&gt;different&lt;/em&gt; from social networks, blogging, and video. And it&#039;s different from either terrestrial or satellite radio and even from Internet radio. There are common points between podcasting and all those other platforms, but is there really so much less to say about podcasting now than in 2007? 

I&#039;m not suggesting that audio podcasting should be headline news just for its existence, or that it should be enjoying the shiny-object attention that, say, Quora is getting, or the mainstream media attention that Twitter enjoys. But there&#039;s a difference between the &lt;em&gt;public&lt;/em&gt; not talking about podcasting, and &lt;em&gt;podcasters&lt;/em&gt; not talking about podcasting. If Edison/Arbitron&#039;s statistics are correct and only 23% of Americans have &lt;em&gt;ever&lt;/em&gt; listened to a podcast, the reason we&#039;re not hearing about podcasts is definitely not because they&#039;ve become so widely integrated into mainstream culture that people take them for granted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have been paying more attention to the PodCamp programs, Doug, but since I couldn&#8217;t go, I didn&#8217;t actually look at the schedules. My bad for not noticing what was happening sooner. </p>
<p>As for people continuing to podcast and listen to podcasts&#8211;some definitely do, but many of the shows I used to listen to have podfaded, growth has slowed down (my next post, almost finished, is about statistics), and a great many of the services once available to podcasters have disappeared. New ones are not springing up very quickly in their wake.</p>
<p>As I said in my reply to Chris, PodCamp may serve the wider community best as it is, but audio podcasting as a medium is <em>different</em> from social networks, blogging, and video. And it&#8217;s different from either terrestrial or satellite radio and even from Internet radio. There are common points between podcasting and all those other platforms, but is there really so much less to say about podcasting now than in 2007? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that audio podcasting should be headline news just for its existence, or that it should be enjoying the shiny-object attention that, say, Quora is getting, or the mainstream media attention that Twitter enjoys. But there&#8217;s a difference between the <em>public</em> not talking about podcasting, and <em>podcasters</em> not talking about podcasting. If Edison/Arbitron&#8217;s statistics are correct and only 23% of Americans have <em>ever</em> listened to a podcast, the reason we&#8217;re not hearing about podcasts is definitely not because they&#8217;ve become so widely integrated into mainstream culture that people take them for granted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wait! Who Took the Podcasting out of PodCamp? by Sallie Goetsch</title>
		<link>http://www.podcastasylum.com/reports/2011/02/wait-who-took-the-podcasting-out-of-podcamp/comment-page-1/#comment-66116</link>
		<dc:creator>Sallie Goetsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You call it a camp to indicate an unconference structure. If it&#039;s not an unconference, you probably shouldn&#039;t call it a camp. (This is an issue I have with WordCamp SF, which is a great event, but is not an unconference.)

And you have to call it &lt;em&gt;something&lt;/em&gt;, because human beings need labels and words to communicate with. Descriptive names, if they are accurate, help people figure out whether they want to attend the event. But they limit events (and businesses) from growing beyond their original scope, leading to business for my occasional clients over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.namedevelopment.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Strategic Name Development&lt;/a&gt; in re-naming them.

Now, obviously, PodCamp Boston and PodCamp Toronto are terrific, thriving events that benefit a lot of people. I&#039;m not saying that the events themselves need to be changed, since people seem to be happy with them as they are. But other platforms do have events dedicated exclusively to them, and right now it seems podcasting does not. If PodCamp is not going to be that event, then podcasting needs a new home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You call it a camp to indicate an unconference structure. If it&#8217;s not an unconference, you probably shouldn&#8217;t call it a camp. (This is an issue I have with WordCamp SF, which is a great event, but is not an unconference.)</p>
<p>And you have to call it <em>something</em>, because human beings need labels and words to communicate with. Descriptive names, if they are accurate, help people figure out whether they want to attend the event. But they limit events (and businesses) from growing beyond their original scope, leading to business for my occasional clients over at <a href="http://www.namedevelopment.com" rel="nofollow">Strategic Name Development</a> in re-naming them.</p>
<p>Now, obviously, PodCamp Boston and PodCamp Toronto are terrific, thriving events that benefit a lot of people. I&#8217;m not saying that the events themselves need to be changed, since people seem to be happy with them as they are. But other platforms do have events dedicated exclusively to them, and right now it seems podcasting does not. If PodCamp is not going to be that event, then podcasting needs a new home.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wait! Who Took the Podcasting out of PodCamp? by Doug Haslam</title>
		<link>http://www.podcastasylum.com/reports/2011/02/wait-who-took-the-podcasting-out-of-podcamp/comment-page-1/#comment-66115</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Haslam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t any thing new or sudden. Podcamp broadened from the narrow topic of podcasting some time ago without, as you note, abandoning it entirely? The name? Well, maybe a misnomer now (I&#039;ll let Chris &amp; Chris speak to that), but it&#039;s hard to dismantle branding. 

I honestly don&#039;t remember that question coming up for the Boston PodCamps for some time. 

As for podcasting itself, just because people aren&#039;t talking about it by name does not mean they aren&#039;t doing it. But I think you know that, Sallie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t any thing new or sudden. Podcamp broadened from the narrow topic of podcasting some time ago without, as you note, abandoning it entirely? The name? Well, maybe a misnomer now (I&#8217;ll let Chris &amp; Chris speak to that), but it&#8217;s hard to dismantle branding. </p>
<p>I honestly don&#8217;t remember that question coming up for the Boston PodCamps for some time. </p>
<p>As for podcasting itself, just because people aren&#8217;t talking about it by name does not mean they aren&#8217;t doing it. But I think you know that, Sallie.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wait! Who Took the Podcasting out of PodCamp? by Chris Brogan</title>
		<link>http://www.podcastasylum.com/reports/2011/02/wait-who-took-the-podcasting-out-of-podcamp/comment-page-1/#comment-66114</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Brogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it should vanish, in some ways. Why call it a camp? Why call it anything? Just make gatherings that help people do what they want to do. Wouldn&#039;t that be lovely?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it should vanish, in some ways. Why call it a camp? Why call it anything? Just make gatherings that help people do what they want to do. Wouldn&#8217;t that be lovely?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wait! Who Took the Podcasting out of PodCamp? by donna papacosta</title>
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		<dc:creator>donna papacosta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are so right, Sallie. Who took the podcasting out of Podcamp indeed?! 

When someone stops using a word, can we assume it&#039;s because it has become entrenched in our business processes and no longer NEEDS to be distinguished? I don&#039;t know. Your post is food for thought, for sure. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right, Sallie. Who took the podcasting out of Podcamp indeed?! </p>
<p>When someone stops using a word, can we assume it&#8217;s because it has become entrenched in our business processes and no longer NEEDS to be distinguished? I don&#8217;t know. Your post is food for thought, for sure. Thanks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by StefanDidak, Sallie Goetsch. Sallie Goetsch said: Podcasting may not be dead, but it&#039;s in danger of becoming homeless: http://bit.ly/fwgu3Q [...]</description>
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